Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

03/03/2023 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 3, 2023                                                                                          
                           1:00 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sarah Vance, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative David Eastman                                                                                                    
Representative Andrew Gray                                                                                                      
Representative Cliff Groh                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jamie Allard, Vice Chair                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 66                                                                                                               
"An  Act relating  to homicide  resulting from  conduct involving                                                               
controlled substances; relating to  the computation of good time;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 67                                                                                                               
"An Act relating  to criminal law and procedure;  relating to the                                                               
crime  of  stalking;  relating   to  consecutive  sentencing  for                                                               
violation  of conditions  of  release; relating  to  the duty  to                                                               
register  as a  sex  offender; amending  the  definition of  'sex                                                               
offense'; amending  the definition  of 'crime  involving domestic                                                               
violence'; relating to  multidisciplinary child protection teams;                                                               
amending  Rule  6(r), Alaska  Rules  of  Criminal Procedure;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  66                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: CONTROLLED SUB.;HOMICIDE;GOOD TIME DEDUC.                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/08/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/08/23       (H)       JUD, FIN                                                                                               
02/27/23       (H)       JUD AT 1:30 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
02/27/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
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03/01/23       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
03/01/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/01/23       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/03/23       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB  67                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: HARASSMENT; SEX OFFENDERS & OFFENSES                                                                               
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/08/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/08/23       (H)       JUD, FIN                                                                                               
03/03/23       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM GRUENBERG 120                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SKIDMORE, Deputy Attorney General                                                                                          
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of HB 66, on behalf of                                                              
the House Rules Standing Committee, sponsor by request of the                                                                   
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SANDY SNODGRASS, Founder                                                                                                        
Alaska Fentanyl Response                                                                                                        
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered invited testimony during the                                                                     
hearing on HB 66.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MIKE DUNDES                                                                                                                     
Representing Self                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 66.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS NORRIS                                                                                                                   
Representing Self                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in opposition to HB 66.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SKIDMORE, Deputy Attorney General                                                                                          
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented HB  67  on behalf  of the  House                                                             
Rules Standing Committee, sponsor by request of the governor.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NANCY MEADE, General Counsel                                                                                                    
Alaska Court System                                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing on HB
67.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KACI SCHROEDER, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                      
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented the  sectional analysis for HB 67,                                                             
on  behalf of  the  House Rules  Standing  Committee, sponsor  by                                                               
request of the governor.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:00:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SARAH  VANCE called the House  Judiciary Standing Committee                                                             
meeting  to order  at 1:00  p.m.   Representatives Carpenter,  C.                                                               
Johnson,  Gray, Groh,  and  Vance  were present  at  the call  to                                                               
order.   Representative  Eastman arrived  as the  meeting was  in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        HB  66-CONTROLLED SUB.;HOMICIDE;GOOD TIME DEDUC.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:01:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 66, "An  Act relating to homicide  resulting from                                                               
conduct   involving  controlled   substances;  relating   to  the                                                               
computation of good time; and providing for an effective date."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:01:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  SKIDMORE,  Deputy   Attorney  General,  Criminal  Division,                                                               
Department of  Law (DOL), on  behalf of the House  Rules Standing                                                               
Committee, sponsor by  request of the governor,  provided a brief                                                               
overview of  HB 66.   He  stated that the  bill would  change the                                                               
classification for  the distribution  of drugs to  another person                                                               
that results in  that person's death from  manslaughter to murder                                                               
in the  second degree.   Further, it would place  restrictions on                                                               
the ability to receive good  time for those individuals convicted                                                               
of distributing a schedule IA through IVA controlled substance.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE commenced invited testimony.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:02:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANDY SNODGRASS,  Founder, Alaska Fentanyl Response,  shared that                                                               
in  2021, her  only son,  Robert Bruce  Snodgrass, was  killed by                                                               
fentanyl  at  age 22  in  Anchorage.    His  death was  ruled  an                                                               
accidental  overdose; however,  she  argued that  it should  have                                                               
been ruled  a "drug-induced homicide"  and prosecuted  as second-                                                               
degree  murder.   She  argued  that the  bill  would  serve as  a                                                               
deterrent  to individuals  dealing illegal  drugs and  enable law                                                               
enforcement and district attorneys  to negotiate cooperation from                                                               
lower-level   drug  dealers   in   exchange   for  higher   level                                                               
associates.   She emphasized that  the intent of  the legislation                                                               
was to reach high level  dealers bringing Fentanyl into Alaska at                                                               
alarming  rates.     She  opined   that  the   legislation  would                                                               
demonstrate to Alaskans that their  leaders were taking action to                                                               
protect  the state  and punish  perpetrators  who were  poisoning                                                               
members of the community.  She  urged the committee to advance HB
66  to the  House Finance  Committee.   She discussed  the Alaska                                                               
Fentanyl  Response   project.    She  outlined   a  three-pronged                                                               
approach  to  the  [Fentanyl]   epidemic:  AK  Fentanyl  Response                                                               
Project, which  provided prevention, awareness, and  education to                                                               
Alaska  communities;  law  enforcement,   which  the  bill  would                                                               
enable; and substance abuse treatment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:07:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE opened public testimony on HB 66.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:08:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE DUNDES, Representing Self,  stated his opposition to Section                                                               
2  of HB  66, which  would remove  the possibility  of good  time                                                               
deductions from  a long list  of drug-related crimes.   He shared                                                               
that  he  was presently  overcoming  his  struggles with  alcohol                                                               
addiction.   He  stressed  that by  removing  the possibility  of                                                               
receiving a good time deduction,  the incentive to seek treatment                                                               
would  also be  reduced.   He emphasized  the importance  of good                                                               
time for first  time offenders, as it offered a  second chance to                                                               
become a better  citizen.  He argued that  removing the incentive                                                               
could cause  first time law breakers  to give up hope  and become                                                               
less likely to continue on a path of recovery.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:10:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS  NORRIS, Representing  Self, expressed  his opposition  to                                                               
Section  2 of  HB  66.   He  said he  was speaking  as  a man  in                                                               
recovery  who  had  made  bad  decisions  in  his  past  that  he                                                               
regretted  wholeheartedly.   He opined  that three  factors could                                                               
deter a person  from repeating past mistakes:  hope, support, and                                                               
labels.  He shared his belief  that addicts did not deserve to be                                                               
judged as "monsters," nor should  they be locked away without the                                                               
possibility of  getting help  or seeing their  family.   He urged                                                               
the  committee to  fight  the stigma  for  those struggling  with                                                               
addiction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:13:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:13:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE closed  public testimony  on HB  66.   She announced                                                               
that the bill was held over.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          HB  67-HARASSMENT; SEX OFFENDERS & OFFENSES                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:14:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  67,  "An  Act  relating  to  criminal  law  and                                                               
procedure;  relating  to  the  crime  of  stalking;  relating  to                                                               
consecutive sentencing  for violation  of conditions  of release;                                                               
relating to the duty to register  as a sex offender; amending the                                                               
definition of  'sex offense'; amending  the definition  of 'crime                                                               
involving  domestic  violence';   relating  to  multidisciplinary                                                               
child  protection  teams; amending  Rule  6(r),  Alaska Rules  of                                                               
Criminal Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:14:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SKIDMORE,  Deputy Attorney  General, Criminal  Division DOL,                                                               
on  behalf of  the  House Rules  Standing  Committee, sponsor  by                                                               
request of  the governor, introduced  HB 67.  He  paraphrased the                                                               
transmittal  letter [included  in  the  committee packet],  which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Under the authority of Article III, Section 18, of the                                                                     
     Alaska Constitution, I am transmitting a bill relating                                                                     
     to increase protection for victims  of sex offenses and                                                                    
     domestic violence.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This legislation  eliminates gaps in  Alaska's criminal                                                                    
     justice system  and improves our  law to  help victims.                                                                    
     Specifically,  the  bill  removes  incentives  for  sex                                                                    
     offenders  from out  of state  to  relocate to  Alaska;                                                                    
     helps our law enforcement  personnel better monitor the                                                                    
     activities  of sex  offenders  within  our state;  more                                                                    
     appropriately  groups violations  of protective  orders                                                                    
     for  stalking and  sexual  assault  with violations  of                                                                    
     protective  orders   for  domestic   violence;  ensures                                                                    
     adequate sanctions for  repeat violations of conditions                                                                    
     of release;  reduces the  trauma victims  experience by                                                                    
     participating  in  our   justice  system;  and  ensures                                                                    
     professional can  engage with children involved  in sex                                                                    
     offenses to provide help to those children.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     For   too  long   Alaska   has   had  the   unfortunate                                                                    
     distinction  of  having  the highest  rates  of  sexual                                                                    
     assault  in the  United States  According to  GBI data.                                                                    
     Alaska's sexual  assault rate is  more than  four times                                                                    
     he national average,  and more than double  that of the                                                                    
     next  closest  state.  Given these  statistics,  it  is                                                                    
     deeply troubling  that our  existing laws  has critical                                                                    
     gaps  that   allow  convicted   sex  offenders   to  go                                                                    
     undetected, makes  Alaska a  refuge for  sex offenders,                                                                    
     and leaves our most vulnerable citizens exposed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This  legislation eliminates  Alaska as  an option  for                                                                    
     sex  offenders  from  other  states  seeking  to  avoid                                                                    
     registration   requirements    by   updating   Alaska's                                                                    
     registration requirement  to be  more in line  with the                                                                    
     federal scheme. Under existing law,  a sex offender who                                                                    
     is required  to register  in their state  of conviction                                                                    
     is  not always  required  to register  in Alaska.  This                                                                    
     makes Alaska  attractive to sex  offenders who  seek to                                                                    
     avoid  registration. This  legislation closes  that gap                                                                    
     and simply  says: "If you  are required to  register in                                                                    
     your  home state  and you  come  to Alaska,  u will  be                                                                    
     required to register here, regardless  of when you were                                                                    
     convicted." This change will  respect the decision made                                                                    
     in the person's home state  that required the person to                                                                    
     register, as  well as protect Alaskans.  A sex offender                                                                    
     should not  be allowed to avoid  registration simply by                                                                    
     moving to Alaska.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This legislation  also protects victims of  stalking by                                                                    
     increasing the  level of offense where  a person stalks                                                                    
     someone in  violation of a  stalking or  sexual assault                                                                    
     protective order.  Under current  law, a person  can be                                                                    
     convicted of stalking  in the first degree,  which is a                                                                    
     felony, for stalking someone  when violating a domestic                                                                    
     violence  protective  order.  However,  it  is  only  a                                                                    
     misdemeanor  for  violation  of a  stalking  protective                                                                    
     order.  This  legislation  would   close  the  gap  and                                                                    
     include stalking someone in violation  of a stalking or                                                                    
     sexual assault protective order  among the conduct that                                                                    
     will  elevate  the offense  to  stalking  in the  first                                                                    
     degree (class C felony).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The  legislation  further   protects  victims  and  the                                                                    
     public   by   mandating   additional   sanctions   when                                                                    
     defendants  repeatedly violate  conditions of  release.                                                                    
     Unfortunately,    defendants   often    disregard   the                                                                    
     conditions and bail imposed by  the court. This conduct                                                                    
     returns our jails  into revolving doors and  is a drain                                                                    
     on  Alaska's  justice  system.  To  help  address  this                                                                    
     growing  problem,  the  legislation requires  that  the                                                                    
     court impose  additional jail time for  each conviction                                                                    
     of  violation   of  conditions  of  release   under  AS                                                                    
     11.56.757.  This   additional  sanction  will   send  a                                                                    
     message that  bail and conditions imposed  by the court                                                                    
     are to be followed and  that there are consequences for                                                                    
     failing to do so.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The legislation  also reduces  the stress  that victims                                                                    
     are forced  to experience  when required to  testify at                                                                    
     grand  jury. More  than  30  other jurisdictions  allow                                                                    
     grand jury proceedings without  requiring the victim to                                                                    
     testify, and insists those  victims relive their trauma                                                                    
     before the  grand jury    a room of strangers.  This is                                                                    
     required even though the  victim provides statements to                                                                    
     law  enforcement usually  mere days  earlier. This  all                                                                    
     makes   the   grand   jury   process   cumbersome   and                                                                    
     inefficient  and causes  a hardship  on the  victim and                                                                    
     witness. This legislation relaxes  the rules and allows                                                                    
     key witnesses,  typically the officer  in the  case, to                                                                    
     summarize the  testimony of other witnesses.  This will                                                                    
     permit  prosecutors  to  call fewer  witnesses  at  the                                                                    
     grand jury  phase of  the case,  reducing the  need for                                                                    
     victims to relive their trauma  so soon after the crime                                                                    
     occurred. It will also make  the process more efficient                                                                    
     and  reduce the  backlog  that was  created when  grand                                                                    
     juries were suspended due to COVID-19.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Finally,  the   legislation  makes  changes   aimed  at                                                                    
     protecting our most  vulnerable citizens: our children.                                                                    
     The   legislation    allows   multidisciplinary   child                                                                    
     protection  teams to  accept referrals  of cases  where                                                                    
     there  has been  sexual contact  or sexual  penetration                                                                    
     that  occurs  between children  under  the  age of  13.                                                                    
     Typically,  when children  who are  under 13  engage in                                                                    
     this type  of behavior, prosecution or  adjudication is                                                                    
     not  considered appropriate  or  effective. Rather  the                                                                    
     mental  and   physical  well-being  of   both  children                                                                    
     becomes  the  singular   goal.  However,  without  this                                                                    
     change,  the multidisciplinary  child protection  teams                                                                    
     cannot  engage at  all. Giving  multidisciplinary child                                                                    
     protection  teams, who  are the  experts in  this field                                                                    
     the statutory  authority to  accept referrals  of these                                                                    
     cases  will make  it  easier  to appropriately  address                                                                    
     this  behavior  in  young   children  and  provide  the                                                                    
     children with any needed therapeutic assistance.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     This legislation  will close the  gaps in our  laws and                                                                    
     better protect  Alaskans. The legislation  will provide                                                                    
     tools for us to  monitor offenders and protect Alaskans                                                                    
     from future victimization.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:31:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE invited questions from members of the committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked Mr.  Skidmore to address  Section 1                                                               
of the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  explained  that   Section  1  would  overturn  the                                                               
decision  in State  v. Powell,  effectually  allowing a  recorded                                                             
witness statement to be presented at a grand jury.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EASTMAN  inquired   about  the   language,  "The                                                               
legislature finds that  it is not now, nor has  it ever been," on                                                               
page 1, lines 10-11 of the bill.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  conveyed that the  language in question  related to                                                               
the overturning  of the State  v. Powell decision.   The language                                                             
would allow the use of video  testimony at grand jury and protect                                                               
instances in  which those recordings  had been used in  the past,                                                               
without which, those particular  jury proceedings could be viewed                                                               
as flawed and potentially overturned, he said.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EASTMAN  directed   attention   to  Section   1,                                                               
subsection (b),  of the bill  and asked, "If there's  a situation                                                               
where a  prosecutor is  not signing  off on  evidence going  to a                                                               
grand jury, wouldn't this language  basically say that no one can                                                               
present that information before a grand jury?"                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  clarified that the  purpose of the language  was to                                                               
ensure that prosecutors were only  presenting evidence that would                                                               
be admissible  at trial to the  grand jury.  He  confirmed that a                                                               
prosecutor  must be  present at  grand jury  proceedings for  the                                                               
filing  of an  indictment to  provide legal  advice to  the grand                                                               
jury.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   considered  a   scenario  in   which  a                                                               
prosecutor didn't  want to  present evidence  to the  grand jury.                                                               
He  asked whether  there was  an exception  in statute  to ensure                                                               
that the  evidence would come  before the grand jury  despite the                                                               
prosecutor not wanting to present it.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.   SKIDMORE   explained   that   it   was   the   prosecutor's                                                               
responsibility to  ensure that the  evidence met  the evidentiary                                                               
standard  of  being  admissible  at  trial,  which  was  a  legal                                                               
determination, as opposed to a want or desire of the prosecutor.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY directed  attention to Section 5  of the bill                                                               
and asked whether  someone who was convicted  of public urination                                                               
in Texas,  would be  required to  register as  a sex  offender in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE stated that if a  person was required to register as                                                               
a  sex offender  in another  state, he/she  would be  required to                                                               
register in Alaska.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY  asked, "Why  don't we just  make it  so that                                                               
these crimes in other states that  we would like them to register                                                               
for here  why don't we make that a crime here?"                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE pointed  out that  there were  50 different  states                                                               
with 50  different approaches  to classifying  sex offenses.   He                                                               
added that it would be  impossible to ensure that Alaska Statutes                                                               
were  identical  to  50  other  states,  as  that  would  require                                                               
constant monitoring for amendments  and updating for consistency.                                                               
He clarified  that the  concept was not  to criminalize  the same                                                               
conduct  of all  50 states;  instead, it  was to  dissuade people                                                               
from moving to Alaska to avoid registration requirements.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY  inquired  about the  process  for  amending                                                               
court rules.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:42:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  MEADE, General  Counsel,  Alaska  Court System,  explained                                                               
that for all court rules  other than the Rules of Administration,                                                               
the Alaska Court  System ("the court") had a rule  referred to as                                                               
"rule  making,"  for  which  the   court  appointed  a  committee                                                               
corresponding  to each  category  of rules,  i.e. Criminal  Rules                                                               
Committee,  Civil  Rules  Committee, Appellate  Rules  Committee,                                                               
etcetera.  The  rules committees met anywhere from  4-6 times per                                                               
year and  were staffed  with a  full-time, court  rules attorney,                                                               
she  said.   She continued  to explain  that the  committees were                                                               
comprised of  well-respected attorneys in the  subject matter and                                                               
were tasked with discussing  proposals and making recommendations                                                               
to the  Alaska Supreme Court    the entity with the  authority to                                                               
adopt or decline rule changes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY asked  whether the  rule change  proposed in                                                               
Section 12 had been considered by a rules committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE answered  no, the rule change had not  been reviewed by                                                               
the Criminal Rules Committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRAY   shared   his   understanding   that   the                                                               
legislature had  the ability to  amend court rules.   He inquired                                                               
about the procedure for legislative  court rule changes and asked                                                               
whether the change proposed in HB 67 was unique.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE acknowledged that per  the Constitution of the State of                                                               
Alaska  ("the constitution"),  the legislature  had the  right to                                                               
amend  the rules  of  practice and  procedure  with a  two-thirds                                                               
vote.  She  explained the legislative process  for amending court                                                               
rules,  noting that  the change  proposed in  HB 67  was "a  more                                                               
direct  reach by  the legislature  into the  process of  changing                                                               
rules."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked for the definition of hearsay.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE defined  hearsay as "a statement made  outside of court                                                               
that's used  in court to prove  the truth of what  that statement                                                               
is."   She reported  that hearsay  was generally  inadmissible at                                                               
trial,  as it  was  not  considered reliable  in  and of  itself;                                                               
however, there was a list of admissible exceptions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:48:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  asked whether court rules  were allowed                                                               
to contradict Alaska Statutes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEADE  acknowledged  that  court  rules  and  statutes  were                                                               
related;   however,  she   emphasized   the  difference   between                                                               
substance and procedure.  She  explained that the legislature was                                                               
in  charge  of creating  substantive  law,  while the  court  was                                                               
responsible   for  creating   procedures   to  effectuate   those                                                               
substantive laws.   She noted  that it was permissible  for court                                                               
rules to  contradict state  statute if  the legislature  passed a                                                               
procedural  statute, in  which  case the  court  could amend  the                                                               
procedural statute via court rule.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER sought  to  verify that  Ms. Meade  had                                                               
indicated that statutes could be  overridden or changed via court                                                               
rule.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE  confirmed that court  rule could take  precedence over                                                               
statutes on procedural matters.  She shared an example.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER  considered  an   example  in  which  a                                                               
statute and a court rule were  conflicting.  He asked who decided                                                               
which took precedence.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEADE  reiterated that  for  procedural  matters, the  court                                                               
would apply its  own procedures.  She supposed  that the conflict                                                               
could be  resolved through litigation.   In regard to  Section 12                                                               
of HB 67, she observed no conflict with a substantive law.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C. JOHNSON  sought to  confirm that  the proposed                                                               
court rule change in HB 67 was not procedural.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE clarified that it  was procedural.  She reiterated that                                                               
she did not see a conflict with any existing substantive law.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  C. JOHNSON  sought  to confirm  that because  the                                                               
statute was  making a procedural  change, the court  could choose                                                               
to accept or reject it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEADE said  if the  proposed  legislation were  to pass  the                                                               
legislature with  a two-thirds majority  vote, it would  become a                                                               
court rule.   She stressed that  the court was not  interested in                                                               
conflict  with   the  legislature  by  acting   contrary  to  its                                                               
determination.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:54:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   EASTMAN  asked   whether  the   legislature  was                                                               
entitled to determine its internal procedures.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE answered in the affirmative                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN asked whether  that authority for a branch                                                               
of government  to determine its  internal procedures  was granted                                                               
under the separation of powers doctrine.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE answered yes.  She  shared, for example, that the court                                                               
would abstain from opining on  any litigation about the propriety                                                               
of the legislature's rules of conduct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:56:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY  asked Ms.  Meade to  summarize the  State v.                                                             
Powell decision.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE,  firstly, directed attention  to Section 12 of  HB 67,                                                               
which proposed  a direct  amendment to  court rules  by providing                                                               
that hearsay would be admissible  at grand jury.  She highlighted                                                               
page 11,  line 22 of the  bill, explaining that in  a prosecution                                                               
for  a  sex offense,  hearsay  made  by  a  child victim  may  be                                                               
admitted in  front of the  grand jury if  the child was  under 10                                                               
years of age.   In the State  v. Powell case, the  victim was 14,                                                             
so the  child victim's testimony  could not be admitted  in front                                                               
of the  grand jury  under that  exception.   The argument  in the                                                               
Powell  case, she  said,  centered on  whether  the hearsay  rule                                                             
could  be  admitted  in  front  of the  grand  jury  in  general.                                                               
Ultimately,  the court  decided  that the  hearsay exception  for                                                               
certain recorded  testimony by  child victims  under 16  years of                                                               
age only applied at trial, not grand jury.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GROH,  referring  to Section  12,  asked  whether                                                               
evidentiary questions other than hearsay were involved.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE deferred to DOL.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:01:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE, in response to  Representative Groh, confirmed that                                                               
there  were  other evidentiary  rules  that  would constrain  the                                                               
evidence admissible at grand jury.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GROH asked  Mr. Skidmore  to provide  examples of                                                               
the other evidentiary rules.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  offered  the example  of  "relevance  401,"  which                                                               
required that  the information was relevant  to the determination                                                               
in front of  the grand jury.   He noted that there  were a number                                                               
of other  significant rules, such as  privileges and inadmissible                                                               
character evidence.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GROH  inferred from  page 11,  lines 13-14  of the                                                               
bill,  that a  variety  of potential  rules  and objections  went                                                               
substantially beyond hearsay.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE answered  yes, after  a grand  jury proceeding  the                                                               
defense could file other motions  contesting the admissibility of                                                               
that   evidence  at   trial   and   therefore,  questioning   the                                                               
admissibility of that evidence at grand jury.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GROH concluded  that the  rule change  offered in                                                               
Section 12  of HB 67 went  far beyond hearsay.   He asked whether                                                               
that was accurate.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE did not understand the question.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GROH sought  to confirm that the  language on page                                                               
11,  lines 13-14,  would allow  substantial  evidence other  than                                                               
hearsay,  such  as relevance  and  privileges,  to be  admissible                                                               
before the grand jury.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE shared his belief  that the language would not allow                                                               
such information  to be admitted, unless  the prosecutor believed                                                               
it was  admissible at  trial.   He added  that the  provision was                                                               
limited  to only  expanding the  ability  to summarize  evidence,                                                               
which some referred to as hearsay.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:04:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GROH  asked whether the prosecutor's  "belief" was                                                               
subjective.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  answered no,  he  explained  that in  Alaska,  the                                                               
defense had the  opportunity to review a transcript  of the grand                                                               
jury  proceeding   and  could  file   a  motion  to   dismiss  an                                                               
indictment's  validity  based  on  the  admission  of  irrelevant                                                               
evidence.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GROH  inquired  about  the  practical  effect  of                                                               
inserting the  language, "the prosecutor  believes", on  page 11,                                                               
line 13, of HB 67.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE said  the language  would simply  clarify that  the                                                               
prosecution was  presenting admissible  evidence.  He  added that                                                               
the  language was  intended to  provide clarity  - not  to change                                                               
substantive operations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:08:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY asked why the  court system wasn't being used                                                               
as the  vehicle for  amending the court  rule change  proposed in                                                               
Section 12.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  explained that the  courts required  multiple years                                                               
to amend court rules via the  committee process, which may or may                                                               
not be  adopted by the  Alaska Supreme  Court.  He  believed that                                                               
waiting multiple  years to reverse  the State v.  Powell decision                                                             
was  problematic, opining  that  the legislature  was capable  of                                                               
effecting that faster.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY  asked whether  this  rule  change had  been                                                               
proposed to the Criminal Rules Committee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  answered no, as the  committee had been tied  up in                                                               
discussions about other rules.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY  asked how often  the grand jury  returned an                                                               
indictment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  did not know  the answer.  He  anecdotally reported                                                               
that in Alaska,  the grand jury offered returns  of indictment 75                                                               
percent of  the time  whereas in  other states,  the rate  was 98                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:13:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  asked whether  the proposed  court rule                                                               
change  would prevent  the grand  jury  from calling  a child  to                                                               
testify if it was in the best interest of the case.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE answered, "Absolutely not."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER  asked  why  the  proposed  court  rule                                                               
change was not limited to evidence concerning children.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE suggested  that, similar  to  children, victims  of                                                               
sexual assault shouldn't be required  to relive their trauma.  He                                                               
indicated  that  it was  within  the  legislature's authority  to                                                               
decide  how victims  ought to  be treated  for purposes  of grand                                                               
jury.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  asked whether grand jury  members could                                                               
decipher admissible evidence from inadmissible evidence.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  answered no, which  was why grand  jury proceedings                                                               
were recorded, transcribed, and provided to the defense.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:19:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN directed attention to  page 9, line 4, and                                                               
asked  to what  extent indecent  viewing of  a picture  was being                                                               
classified as a sex offense.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.   SKIDMORE  offered   to  follow   up   with  the   requested                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  sought  to confirm  that  nothing  would                                                               
preclude the  prosecutor from bringing  a victim in front  of the                                                               
grand jury.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE confirmed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN pointed  out  that  prosecutors could  be                                                               
criticized  for bringing  a young  victim in  front of  the grand                                                               
jury and asked  whether, in practice, that would  deter them from                                                               
doing so.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE   said  prosecutors   were  subject   to  criticism                                                               
regardless.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:24:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE sought  to  verify  that the  bill  would allow  law                                                               
enforcement to summarize a recorded witness statement.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  clarified  that  it  would  allow  an  officer  to                                                               
summarize  statements made  to the  officer,  either recorded  or                                                               
not.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE asked  whether  a transcript  would  be provided  in                                                               
addition to the summary.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE said,  as the  bill was  currently drafted,  either                                                               
version would be acceptable.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE asked  why  a  broad approach  was  being taken,  as                                                               
opposed to a more proscriptive approach.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE recalled that a  survey was conducted of policies in                                                               
other  states  and  in  29  of  them,  as  well  as  the  federal                                                               
government, a broad approach was utilized.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:28:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  invited  Ms.  Schroeder   to  provide  a  sectional                                                               
analysis of HB 67.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:28:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KACI  SCHROEDER, Assistant  Attorney General,  Criminal Division,                                                               
DOL, on behalf of the  House Rules Standing Committee, sponsor by                                                               
request of the governor, presented  the sectional analysis for HB
67, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1.  This is a  legislative findings  and intent                                                                  
     section.  The  section   clarifies  that  evidence  the                                                                    
     prosecutor believes will be  admissible at trial should                                                                    
     be  admissible   at  grand   jury.  The   section  also                                                                    
     overturns the decision  in State v. Powell,  487 P. 609                                                                    
     (Alaska  App. 2021)  to the  extent that  it held  that                                                                    
     testimony  may not  be summarized  at grand  jury under                                                                    
     Alaska Rule of Evidence 801(d)(3).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
     Section 2.  This section amends  stalking in  the first                                                                  
     degree (class C felony)  to include situations where an                                                                    
     individual continues  to stalk someone in  violation of                                                                    
     a stalking or sexual assault protective order.                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     Section  3.  If  a  person is  being  sentenced  for  a                                                                  
     violation   of  a   condition  of   release  under   AS                                                                    
     11.56.757, this  section requires  the court  to impose                                                                    
     some  additional time  for the  underlying offense  and                                                                    
     any additional  crimes of violation  of a  condition of                                                                    
     release.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Section  4.  This  section amends  AS  12.63.010(b)  to                                                                  
     require a  person who must  register as a  sex offender                                                                    
     to report additional  information, such as professional                                                                    
     licensing information and  passport information, to the                                                                    
     Department of Public Safety.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                              
     Section 5.  This section  makes a  conforming amendment                                                                  
     in AS 12.63.010(d)  to account for the  changes made in                                                                    
     section 6.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     Section 6. This section adds  two new subsections to AS                                                                  
     12.63.010 that require a person  who must register as a                                                                    
     sex offender to notify  the Department of Public Safety                                                                    
     if the person plans to leave  the state or is away from                                                                    
     any address  provided to the department  for seven days                                                                    
     or more.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Section  7.  This  section amends  AS  12.63.020(a)  to                                                                  
     clarify  the duration  of the  tolling  period for  sex                                                                    
     offenders who  are in  noncompliance with  the chapter.                                                                    
     The tolling will be day for day.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     Section 8.  This section corrects a  cross reference AS                                                                  
     11.61.123 and  makes sexual  penetration with  a corpse                                                                    
     and  sex trafficking  in the  first and  second degrees                                                                    
     registerable.                                                                                                              
     Sectional  Analysis Page  2 Prepared  by Department  of                                                                  
     Law                                                                                                                        
     Section  9.  This  section  amends  the  definition  of                                                                  
     "crime  involving  domestic  violence" to  include  the                                                                    
     crimes  of  unlawful  contact and  interfering  with  a                                                                    
     report of a crime of domestic violence.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     Section  10. This  section  amends  AS 47.14.300(a)  to                                                                  
     allow  multidisciplinary  child   protection  teams  to                                                                    
     assist  in the  evaluation and  investigation of  cases                                                                    
     involving   reports  of   sexual  contact   and  sexual                                                                    
     penetration where  both the perpetrator and  the victim                                                                    
     are children under  the age of 13. The  purpose of this                                                                    
     section  is to  be able  to provide  both children  the                                                                    
     resources necessary to address this type of behavior.                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
     Section  11.  This   section  makes  the  applicability                                                                  
     section in  ch. 4, FSSLA  2019 (HB 49),  retroactive as                                                                    
     it pertains  to the  requirement for sex  offenders who                                                                    
     have to register  in another state to  also register in                                                                    
     Alaska when  they are present  in Alaska  regardless of                                                                    
     when they were convicted.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
     Section  12.  This  section  is  a  direct  court  rule                                                                  
     amendment   allowing   witnesses   to   summaries   the                                                                    
     testimony of  other witnesses before the  grand jury if                                                                    
     the  prosecutor believes  that that  evidence would  be                                                                    
     admissible at trial.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
     Section 13.  This section  repeals AS  12.40.110, which                                                                  
     allows out of court  statements provided by children in                                                                    
     sex offense  cases to be  presented to the  grand jury.                                                                    
     The amendments made  in sec. 10 of  the bill, alleviate                                                                    
     the need for this statute.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     Section 14. This section is the applicability section.                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
     Section  15. This  section  is  the conditional  effect                                                                  
     section for the court rule change.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
     Section 16. This section makes  the bill effective July                                                                  
     1, 2023.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:34:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE invited questions from members of the committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN directed  attention to page 6,  line 30 of                                                               
the  bill, and  asked why  the  term "the  period" was  replacing                                                               
"each year."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE explained that the  language was trying to implement                                                               
a  more  equitable  and  fair  system  for  people  on  the  [sex                                                               
offender]  registry   by  aligning   a  registrant's   period  of                                                               
noncompliance with the length of  the toll, as opposed to tolling                                                               
all sex offenders  or child kidnappers who failed  to comply with                                                               
an extension of one year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN inquired about Section 6 of the bill.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE said the provision  concerned sex offenders or child                                                               
kidnappers  who planned  to leave  the country  or travel  out of                                                               
state.   The idea, he said,  was to require sufficient  notice to                                                               
allow  the department  to communicate  the registrant's  plans to                                                               
enter another state or country.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN   asked  whether   it  was   the  state's                                                               
intention to  notify other  states of  the registrant's  plans to                                                               
travel to or through them.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE deferred the question to Ms. Purinton.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:38:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   CARPENTER  asked   whether  evidence   could  be                                                               
withheld from the grand jury  if the prosecutor believed it would                                                               
be inadmissible at trial.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE   confirmed  that  prosecutors  would   not  submit                                                               
evidence  that was  believed to  be inadmissible.   If  the grand                                                               
jurors were asking  for that evidence, he added, it  would be the                                                               
prosecutor's  job  to explain  why  certain  information was  not                                                               
being presented to them.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER  asked  who ultimately  determined  the                                                               
admissibility of evidence at trial.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE stated that the  courts were the ultimate arbiter of                                                               
that information if an objection was made by the defense.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  asked who determined  the admissibility                                                               
of evidence at trial.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE reiterated  that the  prosecution, having  received                                                               
legal training, would select the  proper evidence to present to a                                                               
grand jury, which was subject to review by the defense lawyer.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER   asked  what  authority   enabled  the                                                               
prosecuting attorney  to determine the admissibility  of evidence                                                               
at the grand jury.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  explained  that  the  prosecutor  was  statutorily                                                               
required to bring  cases forward to the grand  jury; further, the                                                               
prosecutor  was obligated,  via  case law  and  ethics rules,  to                                                               
present  evidence to  the grand  jury.   Suggesting that  someone                                                               
other than the prosecutor would  be making that determination, he                                                               
said, would fundamentally change the system as it was designed.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  maintained his concern about  the added                                                               
language in  Section 12, "the  prosecutor believes," which  was a                                                               
judgement call  made by  the prosecuting  attorney.   He insisted                                                               
that per  Article 1 of the  constitution, the grand jury  had the                                                               
constitutional right to review all  information regardless of its                                                               
admissibility at court.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.   SKIDMORE   disagreed    with   Representative   Carpenter's                                                               
assessment.   He clarified that the  grand jury did not  have the                                                               
right  to any  and  all available  information, reiterating  that                                                               
only  admissible evidence  was  allowed to  be  presented by  the                                                               
prosecutor.  He emphasized that  the constitution did not possess                                                               
contrary language in that regard.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER  asked  whether  a  specific  statutory                                                               
provision was leading Mr. Skidmore to that conclusion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE  stated that his  answer was based on  a compilation                                                               
of case law,  statutes, and rules.  He offered  to follow up with                                                               
Representative Carpenter to provide the requested information.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:51:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  sought to confirm  that if the  bill were                                                               
to pass,  information could  not be brought  before a  grand jury                                                               
unless the prosecutor signed off on it.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE  clarified that  the  bill  was not  impacting  the                                                               
evidential screening  process conducted by the  prosecutor, which                                                               
was an existing practice.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:54:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY asked  which  states constitutionalized  the                                                               
right to a grand jury.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SKIDMORE listed Ohio, Hawaii, and Texas, among others.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:55:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRAY posed a hypothetical scenario.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SKIDMORE indicated  that the  hypothetical example  posed by                                                               
Representative Gray was unrelated to the proposed legislation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:00:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced that HB 67 would be held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:00:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 67 - Transmittal Letter.pdf HJUD 3/3/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 67
HB 67 - v.A.PDF HJUD 3/3/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 67
HB 67 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 3/3/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 67
HB 67 - Highlights.pdf HJUD 3/3/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 67
HB 67 - Fiscal Notes (1-6).pdf HJUD 3/3/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 67
HB 67 - List of Presenters & Availiable for Questions.pdf HJUD 3/3/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 67
HB 66 - Braes letter-public testimony.pdf HJUD 3/3/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 66